Las Vegas Video Poker Research Part 1

Everyone tells me that there is no good video poker machines on the Las Vegas strip.  My research shows me that there are indeed plenty of 9/6 Jacks or Better video poker machines.  Where the problem arises for most video poker players is that the 9/6 JoB machines are mostly $5 and above.

That’s not really affordable for most machine players.  Below is a list of casinos with 9/6 Jacks or Better video poker at casinos that I would possibly frequent, on and off the strip.  All information taken from the wonderful people at vpFREE2.

Bally’s
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(2) $5 MG/MD slant-tops (SF = 239, no bonus RC’s) in high-limit area.
(2) $10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops (no bonus RC’s) in high-limit area.
(2) $100 MG uprights in high-limit area.

Bellagio
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(3) $10 MG/MD slant-tops outside high-limit area.
(2) $10 (3/5 Play) MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit area.
(2) $10 (10 Play) MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit area.
(5) $25 TITO slant-tops in high-limit area.
(2) $25 (3/5 Play) slant-tops in high-limit area.
(1) $25 (10 Play) slant-top in high-limit area.
(5) $100 slant-tops in high-limit area.

Caesars Palace
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $5/$10 MG/MD slant-top in high-limit room.
(3) $5/$10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit Palace Court Slots Room.
(2) $25 MG slant-tops in high-limit room.
(2) $100 MG slant-tops in high-limit room.

Flamingo
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $5/$10/$25/$60 MG/MD (The $60 is $100 3-coin) slant-top farthest on the right in high-limit room.

Gold Coast
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(2) 25c (3/5 Play) MG/MD Super Times Pay uprights near Slot Club.
(4) 25c (3/5 Play) MG/MD Super Times Pay uprights near Bowling Center escalator.
(4) 25c Multi-Strike MG/MD uprights near Bowling Center escalator.
25c/50c/$1 MG/MD uprights scattered around casino.
25c/50c/$1 MG/MD bartops @ Sportsbook Bar.
(12) 50c/$1/$2 MG/MD uprights near Ping Pang Pong restaurant.
(12) 50c/$1/$2 MG/MD uprights between high-limit room and table games.
(8) 50c/$1/$2 MG/MD uprights between high-limit room and Sportsbook Bar.
(1) 50c/$1/$2/$5 (1/2/3/5/10 Play) MG/MD Flex Play upright in high-limit area.
(8) $1/$2/$5 MG/MD uprights in center of high-limit area (not against wall).
(7) $2 MG/MD uprights in high-limit area.
(4) $2 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit area.

Golden Nugget
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(3) $5 MG slant-tops in high-limit area.
(2) $5 MG/MD slant-tops in Nouveau Salon near Grotto Restaurant.
(3) $25 MG slant-tops in high-limit area.

Hard Rock
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $10/$25/$50 MG/MD upright (1 point = $6 coin-in) in high-limit room.

Harrah’s
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $5/$10/$25 MG/MD slant-top (No Bonus reward credits) in high-limit room.
(6) $10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops (No Bonus reward credits) in high-limit room.
(3) $100 MG slant-tops in high-limit room.

Luxor
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $1 (Blue Game King) in high-limit area.
(2) $5 (10 Play) MD slant-tops in high-limit area.
(2) $5/$10 MD slant-tops in high-limit area.
(4) $5/$10 (3/5 Play) MD uprights in high-limit area.
(3) $5/$10 (3/5 Play) MD slant-tops in high-limit area.
(2) $10/$25 MD slant-tops in high-limit area.

Mandalay Bay
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $5 Spin Poker slant-top in high-limit area.
(1) $5/$10 MD Spin Poker in high-limit area.
(4) $5/$10 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD in high-limit area.
(3) $5/$10/$25/$100 MG/MD in high-limit area.
(1) $25/$100 MG/MD in high-limit area.

MGM Grand
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(1) $1/$2 (100 Play) MG/MD upright in high-limit area
(2) $1/$2 (50 Play) MG/MD uprights in high-limit area
(12) $5 MD outside the high-limit area to your left.
(3) $5 (3/5/10 Play) MG slant-tops in high-limit area.
(3) $5 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD uprights just outside of high-limit area.
(2) $5/$10/$25 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD uprights in high-limit area.
(6) $10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit area towards Grand Wok Restaurant.
(1) $25 MG upright in high-limit area.
(2) $25 MG slant-tops in high-limit area.
(4) $25 (3/5/10 Play) MG uprights in high-limit area.
(1) $25/$50 (3/5 Play) MG/MD upright in high-limit area.
(4) $100 MG uprights in high-limit area.
(1) $100 (3 Play) MG/MD upright in high-limit area.

Mirage
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
$2/$5 (3/5 Play) MG/MD bank 2 rows away from hi-limit, next to the table games.
$5 MG/MD bartops @ Kokomo’s Bar.
(8) $5 MG/MD slant-tops between Players Club and Caribe Cafe.
(10) $5 MG/MD slant-tops outside high-limit slot room.
(1) $5 (3/5 Play) MG slant-top in high-limit slot room.
(1) $5 (10 Play) MG slant-top in high-limit slot room.
(3) $5/$10 (3/5 Play) MG/MD uprights in high-limit slot room.
(1) $5/$10/$25 MG/MD slant-top in high-limit slot room.
$5/$10/$25/$100 MG/MD bartops at the high-limit bar.
(2) $25 MG slant-tops in high-limit slot room.
(1) $25 (3 Play) MG upright in high-limit slot room.
(3) $25 (3 Play) MG/MD uprights in high-limit slot room.
(2) $25/$50/$100 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit slot room.
(2) $100 MG slant-tops in high-limit slot room.

New York New York
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(17) $5 MG/MD bartops @ Times Square Bar.
$5 (10 Play) slant-tops in high-limit area.
$5/$10 (3/5 Play) slant-tops in high-limit area.
$5/$10/$25 slant-tops in high-limit area.

Palazzo
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
They exist see VP Free

Palms
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(5) 1c (50 Play) MG/MD slant-tops near Ben & Jerry’s.
(5) 25c MG ($12,500 seq RF) near Lounge Bar.
(10) 25c (5 Play) MG uprights near Garduno’s entrance.
(8) 25c (3/5 Play) MG/MD uprights between poker room and Lounge Bar.
(6) 25c (10 Play) MG/MD uprights near cashier.
Many 25c/50c/$1/$2 uprights scattered around casino.
(10) $1/$2 (3/5 Play) MG/MD uprights between box office and Lounge Bar.
(3) $1/$2/$5/$10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit slot room.
(6) $10 (3/5 Play) MG/MD uprights in high-limit slot room.

Paris
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(2) $5 MG/MD slant-tops (SF = 239, no bonus RC’s) in high-limit area.
(2) $10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops (no bonus RC’s) in high-limit area.
(1) $100 (3-coin) MG uprights in high-limit area
(2) $100 MG uprights in high-limit area.

Planet Hollywood
NA

Rio
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(4) $5/$10/$25 MG/MD slant-tops ($5 SF = 239) in high-limit area.
(1) $25 MG upright in high-limit area.
(2) (3-coin) $100 MG uprights in high-limit area.
(2) (5-coin) $100 MG uprights in high-limit area.

Venetian
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
They exist see VP Free

WYNN
9/6 JoB (99.5%)
(6) $2/$5 (3/5/10 Play) and Spin Poker MG/MD slant-tops near Red 8 Restaurant.
(5) $5 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD slant-tops near Red 8 Restaurant.
(4) $5 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD slant-tops near Red Card Desk nearest high-limit room.
(6) $5 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD slant-tops near center of casino.
(8) $5 (3/5/10 Play) and Spin Poker MG/MD uprights a few rows in front of the sportsbook entrance.
(2) $5 MG/MD Spin Poker slant-tops near cashier.
(3) $5 MG/MD Spin Poker slant-tops near Red 8 Restaurant.
(3) $5 Spin Poker Deluxe MG/MD slant-tops near Red 8 Restaurant.
(1) $5 (50 Play) MG slant-tops near Red 8 Restaurant.
(1) $5 (50 Play) MG slant-top in high-limit room.
$5/$10 MG/MD slant-top banks scattered around casino.
(2) $5/$10 Spin Poker Deluxe MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.
(2) $5/$10/$25 Spin Poker MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.
(2) $5/$10/$25 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.
$10 MG/MD bartops @ B Bar and Sportsbook Bar.
(4) $10/$25 (3/5/10 Play) MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.
(6) $10/$25/$100 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.
(3) $25/$100 MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.
(1) $100 MG slant-top in high-limit room.
(2) $100 (3 Play) MG/MD slant-tops in high-limit room.

If you’d like to see all payouts at all casinos please go to vpFREE2.  They put together a great website of information.  Since 9/6 JoB is out of the picture for heavy play while I’m at Caesars Palace (I’ll play some $5 machines) I’ll look for the next best games at these casinos.  Stay tuned for more information.

Video Poker Pay Tables – Do They Matter?

There has been a lot of chatter on the east about Harrah’s removing most of their 9/6 Jacks or Better video poker machines.  This got me to thinking what it actually means to my pocket.

All returns courtesy of Wizard of Odds Video Poker Analyzer

9/6 Jacks or Better: Return 99.54%
8/6 Jacks or Better: Return 97.29%
7/6 Jacks or Better: 97.26%
7/5 Jacks or Better: 96.14%

The differences are not that great when you go down the list, but from top to bottom you’re looking at over 3% less returns.

Let’s look at the 3 tier levels at Harrah’s and the returns on the pay tables above.  Harrah’s has 3 premium levels for their player cards.  Platinum, Diamond, Seven Stars.  Everyone starts off at Gold, so I won’t use that.  $10 into a Video Poker machine gets you 1 point.  Here are the returns to reach each level.

Platinum – 4,000 tier credits – $40,000 coin in.
9/6 Returns – $39,816
8/6 Returns – $38,916
7/6 Returns – $38,904
7/5 Returns – $38,456

Diamond – 11,000 tier credits – $110,000 coin in.
9/6 Returns – $109,494
8/6 Returns – $107,019
7/6 Returns – $106,986
7/5 Returns – $105,754

Seven Star – 100,000 tier credits  – $1,000,000 coin in.
9/6 Returns – $995,400
8/6 Returns – $972,900
7/6 Returns – $972,600
7/5 Returns – $961,400

Let’s see what this means to me.

The following takes 9/6 returns and 7/5 returns into account.  I’m currently Diamond, so the difference in returns to reach Diamond again would be $3,740 of coin in.  Based on my play last year, this would be about $300 more play.  Since I don’t play video poker exclusively, this isn’t entirely scientific.

This isn’t a big deal to me.  With all of the complaints I would have expected a much wider gap.  Furthermore, if I switch my play to $5 machines I won’t have to worry about the lesser pay tables since those machines are still 9/6 in Atlantic City.  I’m sure that will change.

Bottom line, if my math is right, this isn’t a big deal to me.  The way I gamble the difference of $300 won’t make me change my gambling style.